2024 Tow Rate Commission — IN-PERSON ONLY

Detroit Office of the Auditor General
Criminal Justice
Politics

2 Woodward Ave Detroit, MI 48226 (Directions)

Suite 216

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Reporting

Edited and summarized by the Detroit - MI Documenters Team

Note-taking by Betsy Spratt

After an hour of what was billed as a public meeting, the chair — Detroit Auditor General Laura Goodspeed — asked Documenters to leave the room and delete their recordings and tweets. The TRC then continued behind closed doors without adjourning or entering a closed session.

Live reporting by Perry Sylvester

After an hour of what was billed as a public meeting, the chair — Detroit Auditor General Laura Goodspeed — asked Documenters to leave the room and delete their recordings and tweets. The TRC then continued behind closed doors without adjourning or entering a closed session.

Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 2/51
This is one of those boards/commissions that sounds dull as a butter knife yet impacts people directly (fees related to police towing) & has a backstory filled with corruption, bribes, & the FBI--what's not to like?
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 3/51
On my way to a social event but will post links & comments for background this evening...but as always, start with @DetDocumenters previous coverage! Detailed Notes from AJ Johnson @DetroitJCS here docs.google.com/document/d/1y9…
docs.google.com/document/d/1y9…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 4/51
@DetDocumenters @DetroitJCS And the live coverage thread from @DetDocumenters own @SherrieSoUltra here ⬇️ detroit.documenters.org/assignments/20…
detroit.documenters.org/assignments/20…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 5/51
Now, we do not have an agenda for this meeting (and don't get me started on the Magic Packet™️ 🧙‍♂️🎩🐰)...in fact, all we got is this crappy meeting announcement ⬇️ outliermedia.org/wp-content/upl…
outliermedia.org/wp-content/upl…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 6/51
And sightings of binders 🙄🤷‍♂️ (Image via @SherrieSoUltra) Look close and quick--it's apparently not for public distribution pbs.twimg.com/media/GVmi4J-X…
pbs.twimg.com/media/GVmi4J-X…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 7/51
@SherrieSoUltra Without going too deep into the weeds, there is a struggle going on to root out predatory towing practices in Detroit. Media partner @wdet has a great background piece ⬇️ wdet.org/2023/12/25/tow…
wdet.org/2023/12/25/tow…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 8/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet While there have been various efforts at reform, these appear more like empty gestures than actions. An example can be seen in the following story by @kayleighrenel for Media Partner @BridgeDet313 here ⬇️ bridgedetroit.com/detroit-said-a…
bridgedetroit.com/detroit-said-a…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 9/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 So, at the Coleman Young Municipal Building, waiting for the meeting to start…20 minutes prior to start, but no one is home 🤨
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 10/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Now, this should not worry me…after all, I checked with the person in the ‘Administration Employee Services’ office & asked…she went to the back room and came back saying “It should be in 310”…but ‘should be’ a lot weaker than ‘will be’
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 11/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Also checked the posted meetings on the bulletin board in the lobby…all things pointed to our being on ⬇️
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 12/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 And hey! 310 is the right room!
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 13/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 People just started filling in…I’m told that the agenda will be posted on the screen AND…wait for it…available in ‘the public binder’. So I stand corrected—we DO get to see it!
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 14/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 1:05 PM and they are starting…6 people present, they have a quorum
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 15/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Opening meeting to public comments after having approved last meeting minutes
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 16/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Now moving to PPT presentation to be delivered to City Counsel on September 16
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 17/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Invited to follow along in binder…she is also stating how she will present & wants all commission members to be present…will change‘rates’ to ‘fees’
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 18/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 They are critiquing the first slide…focus on types of tows…need more clarity on 3 types of tows & when private, when police authorized
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 19/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Slide 2…friendly talk about formatting while noting they have to get this out tomorrow
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 20/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Where they will talk about themselves
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 21/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Next slide…a member discussing bullet point addressing fuel costs, feels it implies a steady decrease in cost when time frame of 2011-2021 included serious spike(s)
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 22/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Reviewing next side, more discussion about how they will handle City Council questions…be responsive but don’t provide more than they ask for
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 23/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Talk about what other municipalities were reviewed for comparison/context in rates/fees
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 24/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Lots of talk about need for educating Council about different types of tows…consensual towing outside of this commission’s purview, police would only be involved in crime involved
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 25/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Discussion about what unit would be involved when events in a consensual tow are grounds for police investigation
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 26/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 In this slide, discussion about how prior to DPD Towing Unit, there were 2 related units for towing & impounding…not sure why they are going on about this
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 27/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Continuing on with Police Authorized Tows
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 28/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Talking about previous discussions with BOPC about Charter-driven requirements for setting standard for insurance/bonding…BOPC has this responsibility. Apparently BOPC not happy about this & stating they have NO responsibility in this 🤔🫨
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 29/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Discussion about whether this matter will have to be sent to legal department for review/decision
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 30/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Same situation applies for licensing & permits
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 31/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Along with 3 Documenters, one person from Troy Towing is only member of public here
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 32/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Talk about rate/fee structure…’put of town’ occurs during evidence retrieval, police use their own vehicles for this
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 33/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Well, this has been interesting…even though it was posted as a public meeting, they had had public comment, didn’t go to closed session and should have been clear I’m press—I have been asked to leave
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 34/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 And not just due to my charming personality…they do not want info on rates made public prior to presentation at City Council
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 35/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Asked to delete tweets with new, proposed rates/fees as early release would be ‘devastating’
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 36/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 When asked if I could stay after rate discussion it is explained to me that this meeting is not subject to Open Meetings Act but public was invited by recommendation of director…but with guidelines (apparently about publishing information on rates/fees)
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 37/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Sooo…my request was denied…they went to close session, declaring the public meeting adjourned…to oblivion and beyond 🤷🏼‍♂️
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 38/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Still wondering why they didn’t cover rate/fee info in a closed session when members of public were invited…even if they somehow didn’t get I was media/press, what do they think I was doing taking pictures of slides in the binder?
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 39/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Asked if I’m covering live/real time, I’m left wondering what other form is there with phone in hand?
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 40/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Perhaps I need a bigger lanyard tag 🤔
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 41/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Perhaps I need a bigger, better lanyard ID
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 42/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Now what to make of all this? On one level, it is hard to tell. I mean, we only it made it like a third of the way through the binder. If you want to see the presentation, then set aside Monday, 9/16 at 10 AM & hit the link in calendar ⬇️ detroitmi.gov/government/cit…
detroitmi.gov/government/cit…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 43/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 Detroit is trying to control its towing operations. Yet still manages to look shady. As Malachi Barrett @PolarBarrett reported for @BridgeDet313 the 'process' by which 7 tow companies were hastily awarded contracts doesn't inspire confidence ⬇️ bridgedetroit.com/council-approv…
bridgedetroit.com/council-approv…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 44/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett And the City has been been moving aggressively in its towing operations. As reported in Fox 2 Detroit: "Last year, Detroit police towed more than 14,000 abandoned vehicles. Four months into 2024, DPD has hauled in over 4,500 vehicles." fox2detroit.com/news/abandoned…
fox2detroit.com/news/abandoned…
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 45/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett And the City of Detroit's Proposed Fiscal Year 2024-2025 Budget shows a doubling of the towing unit's expenditures/revenues ⬇️
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 46/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett Now, to be sure, police towing & impounding are necessary aspects of governing a modern municipality; abandoned vehicles are an issue, ability to control evidence & enforce property rights a necessity.
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 47/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett But this is a public service, paid for by the public. The public, the local 'we the people' have the right to know the 'who, what, when, where, why & how' of this service. Who is being paid? What are the incentive structures? Who is enforcing the rules?
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 48/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett The Open Meetings Act is a part of how those questions get answered and ‘we the people’ access the info we need to engage & enforce our rights
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 49/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett As advisory commissions created by the Mayor under Section 7-103 of the City's Charter must comply with the OMA according to Section 2-110 it would seem Thursday's Tow Rate Commission fit the bill.
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 50/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett That's the coverage, such as it is. If anything is incorrect, email documenters@outlier_media.org with 'Corrections Request' in the subject line.
Perry Sylvester @PerrySylvester6 51/51
@SherrieSoUltra @wdet @kayleighrenel @BridgeDet313 @PolarBarrett As always, check out for more news and coverage documenters.org
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